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>> jennifer griffin for us at the pentagon. thanks. >>> is the president fully engaged in foreign policy? we'll ask the fox all-stars when we return. all right that's a fifth-floor problem... ok. not in my house! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! no no no! not today! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! jimmy how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? happier than dikembe mutumbo blocking a shot. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business. get a shareable pool of data... got enough joshua trees? ... on up to 25 devices. so you can spend less time... yea, the golden barrels... managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. looks like we're going to need to order more agaves... ah! oh! ow! ... and more bandages. that's powerful. sharble data plus unlimited talk and text. now save $50 on a droid razr maxx hd by motorola. by the armful? by the barrelfu
>> jennifer griffin for us at the pentagon. thanks. >>> is the president fully engaged in foreign policy? we'll ask the fox all-stars when we return. all right that's a fifth-floor problem... ok. not in my house! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! no no no! not today! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! jimmy how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? happier than dikembe mutumbo blocking a shot. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i'm here to...
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and the issue is not whether or not the advocates in the state department or the pentagon are there. i think at some point the united states government and the white house have to make a decision that syria is an actual danger to america's national security interests. it is not something we can wash our hands from. and there are serious dangers and implications to the united states and the president actually to ask its national security team for realistic options that then he request gather his team and debate and decide about. there hasn't, i think, been a serious debate even within the united states government as to what might be our three top options what are the costs and benefits of each. and if we were to pursue one of them, how would we do it. >> is there a legitimate argument that this destabilizes turkey to some degree, an important country to the united states, and a nato ally, andrew. >> absolutely. thousands of syrians go over the border into turkey every day. and it's very easy for pkk fighters, kurdish fighters to meld into those refugees, to go across the border and ca
and the issue is not whether or not the advocates in the state department or the pentagon are there. i think at some point the united states government and the white house have to make a decision that syria is an actual danger to america's national security interests. it is not something we can wash our hands from. and there are serious dangers and implications to the united states and the president actually to ask its national security team for realistic options that then he request gather his...
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conflict as to what the president said he said the to tell his people do every do and confirm from the pentagon knew was in charge with the state department or urgent -- but leon panetta says it is not 911 that when your people are in danger that is more than 911. lou: john bolton serving the government to hear the secretary of defense to realize the outcry and a need warhol from the ambassador and officials from the government as a 911 call and department of defense can respond, how upset were you? >> i was beyond upset and speechless to what the testimony showed. it revealed incompetence at the top of the obama administration that is breathtaking. the president not concerned with americans under attack, secretary of state's all day long never once called to ask what might be done? the idea secretary not aware for request for satiric -- security saying can we help you out? nobody is hauled in this administration with national security. not just the failure of benghazi on negative benghazi but exposing the risk of facilities, citizens and their country to attacks worldwide. these people and not
conflict as to what the president said he said the to tell his people do every do and confirm from the pentagon knew was in charge with the state department or urgent -- but leon panetta says it is not 911 that when your people are in danger that is more than 911. lou: john bolton serving the government to hear the secretary of defense to realize the outcry and a need warhol from the ambassador and officials from the government as a 911 call and department of defense can respond, how upset were...
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drone does this cast a special in on what the pentagon has been saying it certainly does and i think that was damage control it's very embarrassing for them to admit that a country that's supposedly so primitive in many respects iran was capable of basically hijacking that drone and then as it seems to be the case what iran has claimed that they reverse engineered it they now are claiming that they have built their own line of drones that there was assembling them and i think that makes the whole sort of power equation quite a bit more complicated very very interesting obviously is a subject of great alarm in washington yeah i mean it seems like there is more quiet seems like when it comes to drones there's always more questions than answers of course with this new development iran and iran. iran saying one thing the u.s. is saying another a whole lot of questions of course the issue of drones is finally in the spotlight now it's supposed to be a focal point of john brennan's confirmation hearing to be the head of the cia do you expect that there will be more transparency on the dron
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what we didn't know until yesterday was that that proposal then went to the pentagon and the secretary of defense and top military man, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey also agreed with that. the proposal went to the white house. but you know what? the president, there is only one vote that counts. that is the commander-in-chief. he said no. he is not going to do it. really quite stunning. he overruled his entire national security team. alisyn: it sounds like he decided to do that because he thought that the information they had couldn't be trusted in terms of arming the rebels with weapons. who were the rebels. could they be trusted with these weapons. but it is fascinating to see how decisions are made indecide the white house, right? it sounds like the president keeps his own counsel. >> he certainly listened to all of them and heard them out and we don't know what other people inside the white house's national security advisor, tom donilon said. i don't know if it was a matter of information. it is just a question of balancing. on the one hand, yes
what we didn't know until yesterday was that that proposal then went to the pentagon and the secretary of defense and top military man, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey also agreed with that. the proposal went to the white house. but you know what? the president, there is only one vote that counts. that is the commander-in-chief. he said no. he is not going to do it. really quite stunning. he overruled his entire national security team. alisyn: it sounds like he...
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the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down the idea. >> both of you agreed with petraeus and clinton that we should start looking at military assistance in syria, is that correct? >> that was our position. i do want to say, senator, that obviously there were a number of factors that were reversed here that ultimately led to the president's decision to make it nonlethal. i supported his decision in the end. but the answer to your question is yes. >> for both of you? >> yes. >> "the wall street journal" says the white house was concerned about which rebels could be trusted with arms. was also worried about the risk of drawing the united states into another military conflict. but it was questions over benghazi that led to the most heated moments with secretary panetta and general dempsey defending the administration's response to the deadly raid on the u.s. consulate. >> for you to testify that our posture would not allow a rapid response, our posture was not there because we
the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down the idea. >> both of you agreed with petraeus and clinton that we should start looking at military assistance in syria, is that correct? >> that was our position. i do want to say, senator, that obviously there were a number of factors that were reversed here that ultimately led to the president's decision to make it nonlethal. i supported his decision...
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expect that he could return home, and i'll admit that when we first asked him to stay on and lead the pentagon, his answer was simple. no. but i kept asking. i am persistent. that's how michelle married me. i just kept at it, and it is a testament to leon's patriotism, to his sense of duty that he agreed to serve on this one last tour. and perhaps it was the memory during world war ii of his parents opening up their homes to gis headed for the pacific. perhaps it was because leon served himself as a young lieutenant in the army. perhaps it was the experience of watching his youngest son deploy to afghanistan. what we do know is this, as our nation's 23rd secretary of defense, every action leon panetta has taken, every decision that he has made, has been with one goal in mind -- taking care of our sons and our daughters in uniform and keeping america safe. and just think of the progress under his watch. because we ended the war in iraq and are winding down the war in afghanistan, our troops are coming home, and next year our war in afghanistan will come to an end. we've put the core of al qaeda
expect that he could return home, and i'll admit that when we first asked him to stay on and lead the pentagon, his answer was simple. no. but i kept asking. i am persistent. that's how michelle married me. i just kept at it, and it is a testament to leon's patriotism, to his sense of duty that he agreed to serve on this one last tour. and perhaps it was the memory during world war ii of his parents opening up their homes to gis headed for the pacific. perhaps it was because leon served himself...
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the hand you are in the pentagon. do you know how many times that day the president talked to the chief of staff or to the national security council people? i don't know how many times he was in contact. we were in contact with the staffs there. there was a d.c., which is deputy's meeting of the national security counsel that met that i think five or six or 8:00 that evening. in which everybody was represented including obviously national security team as well as the teams from state and elsewhere cia, dni. in addition to that. obviously our staffs were in constant touch with the white house to alert them as to, you know, what was taking place and what information we had. so there are -- it's just the nature of the white house that presidents of the united states make use of abroad sphere of staff that are involved with the issues to work the issues and continue to be in touch with him as to what is taking place. >> now relative to those unclassified talking points that we're prepared at the request of congress by the
the hand you are in the pentagon. do you know how many times that day the president talked to the chief of staff or to the national security council people? i don't know how many times he was in contact. we were in contact with the staffs there. there was a d.c., which is deputy's meeting of the national security counsel that met that i think five or six or 8:00 that evening. in which everybody was represented including obviously national security team as well as the teams from state and...
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just wait for the three week deadline to arrive and -- i mean, you know, the pentagon, leon panetta, the outgoing defense secretary, saying this is really going to effect our readiness, our ability to protect the country and prevent war and everything else. we're supposed to let that happen? >> yeah. well, i think the president while he doesn't want the domestic spending cuts to go through, he actually does want the military cuts to go through. this is why i think the republicans should call his bluff and play their card and say we're coming to you with responsible spending cuts but no more tax hikes. see how the president answers that. and if he doesn't, jon, i agree with charles krauthammer, let the sequester go through and the spending cuts go through because we have to begin somewhere. jon: and it becomes part of the obama legacy at that point. monica crowley, thank you. jenna: one question, one health question we're taking a look at today is can you actually seeville in the human body? -- evil in the human body? a german scientist says there's a part of the brain where evil lurk
just wait for the three week deadline to arrive and -- i mean, you know, the pentagon, leon panetta, the outgoing defense secretary, saying this is really going to effect our readiness, our ability to protect the country and prevent war and everything else. we're supposed to let that happen? >> yeah. well, i think the president while he doesn't want the domestic spending cuts to go through, he actually does want the military cuts to go through. this is why i think the republicans should...
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that this sequester is -- because of its sort of blunder bust approach that it does not permit the pentagon to make intelligent choices about what is needed, so it is going to get to readiness. ready city council what we need. >> this is the absurdness of washington. >> the white house proposed th-- >> proposing to get agreement on this. now the new strategy is, yeah, but you can't let that sequester happen because the spending cuts would be so awful when, in fact, there are democrats like dick durbin who will be on the program sunday who have said he doesn't really have a problem with the amount of spending cuts in the pentagon. it's a matter of how you go about doing it. republicans i think also have some leverage here by saying, you know, if you really get us down to it, if have to swallow these spending cuts, we're going take them because that might be good. you got your revenues there. zoolt sequester, we don't like it, but before it on. >> there's a lot of pain. particularly if are you from virginia and you have military cuts coming down your way, this is tough. spending cuts are toug
that this sequester is -- because of its sort of blunder bust approach that it does not permit the pentagon to make intelligent choices about what is needed, so it is going to get to readiness. ready city council what we need. >> this is the absurdness of washington. >> the white house proposed th-- >> proposing to get agreement on this. now the new strategy is, yeah, but you can't let that sequester happen because the spending cuts would be so awful when, in fact, there are...
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the pentagon approvedded a major expansion of the u.s. cyber command growing ranks for approximately 900 to 4900 personnel cyber warriors. according to the same reports, there will be three types of forces. those who fortify the dod networks, those who help commanders abroad to plan and execute attacks, and those who conduct infrastructure like power grids and power flaunts. needless to say this is absolutely necessary to protect the nation against what's becoming a leading security threat; however, i'm interested in those protecting the national infrastructure. the majority of the critical infrastructure own and operated by the private sector. will the military rely on the national guard which is able to operate both, under title 10 # and 32 authorities? >> senator, your description of how you try to prepare the force is accurate. we clearly don't have authority to do all of that, but we are trying to grow the right force so that if it became necessary and we had the authority to do all of those things, we would be prepared. the national
the pentagon approvedded a major expansion of the u.s. cyber command growing ranks for approximately 900 to 4900 personnel cyber warriors. according to the same reports, there will be three types of forces. those who fortify the dod networks, those who help commanders abroad to plan and execute attacks, and those who conduct infrastructure like power grids and power flaunts. needless to say this is absolutely necessary to protect the nation against what's becoming a leading security threat;...
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. >> sreenivasan: for the first time, pentagon leaders said today they had supported arming the rebels in syria. defense secretary leon panetta and general martin dempsey chair of the joint chiefs said they made that recommendation to president obama. panetta told a senate hearing that, in the end, the president decided against sending in arms. instead, the u.s. has provided only humanitarian aid to the rebels. secretary panetta also defended the military's response to the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. the assault killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. panetta testified there'd been no specific warning of an imminent attack, so u.s. forces were too far away to respond. >> the united states military, as i've said, is not and frankly should not be a 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world. the u.s. military has neither the resources nor the responsibility to have a firehouse next to every u.s. facility in the world. >> sreenivasan: republican senator john mccain of arizona argued the
. >> sreenivasan: for the first time, pentagon leaders said today they had supported arming the rebels in syria. defense secretary leon panetta and general martin dempsey chair of the joint chiefs said they made that recommendation to president obama. panetta told a senate hearing that, in the end, the president decided against sending in arms. instead, the u.s. has provided only humanitarian aid to the rebels. secretary panetta also defended the military's response to the attack on the...
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half in domestic programs, half in pentagon programs. she and the president want to find a different mix of tax increases and spending cuts to put that off. we'll see whether that will happen. we'll talk to her sunday. >> there are some on the little who are actually saying, well, let's let it happen. won't be that bad. >> well, yeah. and particularly because some republicans are saying, look, the problem is not that we don't have taxes that are too low. it's that we have spending that's way too high. they're saying if we don't like all of these, let's have the automatic spending cuts go through, because over the course of the next 10 years, it would cut a trillion dollars in spending. >> also you have on t h e s h o w senator john mccain who has had a high profile the last couple of weeks. >> that's right. really tough questioning of a former friend, chuck hagel, the nominee for defense secretary, last week, and this week, yesterday, in that hearing was leon panetta and chairman of the joint chiefs, he went after them pretty tough, too.
half in domestic programs, half in pentagon programs. she and the president want to find a different mix of tax increases and spending cuts to put that off. we'll see whether that will happen. we'll talk to her sunday. >> there are some on the little who are actually saying, well, let's let it happen. won't be that bad. >> well, yeah. and particularly because some republicans are saying, look, the problem is not that we don't have taxes that are too low. it's that we have spending...
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understand -- >> they bicker though, the bottom line is these automatic cuts would largely hit the pentagon and as you talked about defense secretary leon panetta earlier testifying on benghazi. he also testified about these budget cuts. he said it would have a dramatic impact on the american people and the country's military readiness with all these big threats all around the world, shep. >> shepard: republicans aren't bending either here. >> no, they aren't. they are saying, look, they are not going to swallow more tax increases that the president laid out there a moment ago. and they also said that when you look at the latest fox news poll, take a look at what the american people are saying about how they don't want more tax increases, they want more spending cuts. when asked whether the president -- they agreed with the president saying the government does not have a spending problem, they think it does. 83% say yes, there is a spending problem. only 14% say no. and that's why senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says they are not going to bend on raising taxes. take a listen. >> th
understand -- >> they bicker though, the bottom line is these automatic cuts would largely hit the pentagon and as you talked about defense secretary leon panetta earlier testifying on benghazi. he also testified about these budget cuts. he said it would have a dramatic impact on the american people and the country's military readiness with all these big threats all around the world, shep. >> shepard: republicans aren't bending either here. >> no, they aren't. they are saying,...
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i need to move to the pentagon as we're getting some news on this story in california. barbara starr, tell me what you're learning about servicemen and women being on alert now. >> absolutely brooke, resonating at the pentagon, this man was a former navy lieutenant in the naval reserves. and now we are told that u.s. navy bases in california and nevada are on, quote, maintaining a heightened security posture, a heightened state of alert as they too are on the lookout for this man. and they do have some reason to know that he has approached the u.s. military in the last few days. a couple of days ago, they learned -- they discovered that he had stayed at a navy motel facility in san diego, and on wednesday he approached two navy sailors at his old unit when he was in the reserves, had a conversation with them, they did not realize they had been talking to dorner until they saw all the news reports. so a lot of concern now, in fact, a day ago, the point loma naval base shut down briefly while they thought he might be there. so now overnight the admiral in charge of the so
i need to move to the pentagon as we're getting some news on this story in california. barbara starr, tell me what you're learning about servicemen and women being on alert now. >> absolutely brooke, resonating at the pentagon, this man was a former navy lieutenant in the naval reserves. and now we are told that u.s. navy bases in california and nevada are on, quote, maintaining a heightened security posture, a heightened state of alert as they too are on the lookout for this man. and...
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for sharing bravo come the first dog of the pentagon. sylvia, leon bus service has been your sacrifice and we promised this time he really is coming home. leon, from your first day in uniform until today, your dedicated service to america has spanned nearly 50 remarkable years. as you review these fine troops one last time, as you return home and walkoff your farm, know that the grant arc of your life speaks to our larger american story, where you can say with confidence and pride that you have fulfilled the hopes that brought carmelo and carmelita panetta to these shores all those years ago. you made them proud. you have helped keep alive the american dream. for not only your children and grandchildren, but for all about children and grandchildren. and for that we will be truly grateful. leon, as your parents would say, grazie. god bless you, and god bless the united states of america. ladies and gentlemen, our secretary of defense, leon panetta. [applause] >> thank you very much. mr. president, i am deeply touched by your moving words,
for sharing bravo come the first dog of the pentagon. sylvia, leon bus service has been your sacrifice and we promised this time he really is coming home. leon, from your first day in uniform until today, your dedicated service to america has spanned nearly 50 remarkable years. as you review these fine troops one last time, as you return home and walkoff your farm, know that the grant arc of your life speaks to our larger american story, where you can say with confidence and pride that you have...
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the plan was directed by david petraeus and backed by pentagon leaders and secretary of state hillary clinton. the white house had doubts which rebels could be trusted with the arms. those details came to light during a senate hearing on libya and republicans had some tough questions for panetta, who revealed he and president obama spoke once during the eight-hour benghazi attack that left four americans dead and explained why the pentagon didn't send any war planes. >> reporter: the reason planes were not launched the attack came in two waves in two different locations and after the first wave ended after about an hour and a half they all thought it was over plus he said there wasn't enough actionable intelligence on the ground to act. >> you can't just willy-nilly send f-16s there and blow the hell out of a place without knowing what's taking place. >> reporter: under questioning by republicans secretary panetta and the joint chiefs of staff martin dempsey say they were aware in the months before attack u.s. ambassador chris stevens was worried about security in libya. >> did you re
the plan was directed by david petraeus and backed by pentagon leaders and secretary of state hillary clinton. the white house had doubts which rebels could be trusted with the arms. those details came to light during a senate hearing on libya and republicans had some tough questions for panetta, who revealed he and president obama spoke once during the eight-hour benghazi attack that left four americans dead and explained why the pentagon didn't send any war planes. >> reporter: the...
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you have to do all the sequester in a hurry, then yes, it's a real problem because it doesn't let the pentagon begin to plan and distribute, if you will, the cuts. but at the end of the day, whether it's defense spending, education spending, health spending, what always matters more than how much you spend is how you spend it. and so i'm not, at the end of the day, all that worried about how much we spend, whether it's on defense or anything else. you just want to have the time to make some intelligent cuts rather than have to make them literally in a matter of days which would probably mean that readiness more than anything else would be cut out of the defense department account. and that's probably the one thing you don't want cut out of it. >> sam stein, you're close and yet so far away over there at the jump seat. what are the odds that the sequester actually takes place? we know the president's proposed something to push them back a while. are we going to see these kind of cuts, the ones that were outlined in the sequester proposal? >> i think the odds are pretty high, to be hone. i don't
you have to do all the sequester in a hurry, then yes, it's a real problem because it doesn't let the pentagon begin to plan and distribute, if you will, the cuts. but at the end of the day, whether it's defense spending, education spending, health spending, what always matters more than how much you spend is how you spend it. and so i'm not, at the end of the day, all that worried about how much we spend, whether it's on defense or anything else. you just want to have the time to make some...
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the big problem is here is not so much the cuts because, in fact, i think we have to cut the pentagon. >> yeah. >> if we can. >> but not to take an ax to it. the way we are approaching it, that means readiness gets cut where you want to maintain -- you always want to maintain readiness. >> that's what the real problem is. the sequester was designed by the republicans really as an alternative and they designed it in a way it was going to be so bad that we would never do it. now since they can't come up with anything else, even though they are they have the majority, some of them are talking that the sequester makes sense. you have to be specific and purposeful when you are designing a budget. >> we are talking to congressman peter welch, democrat from vermont here on the friday morning edition of the "full-court press." has there been any panel discussion? i believe i read about immigration reform there, and what is the feeling that, you know, it looks like something is going to get through the clearance. any hope of getting anything comprehensive through the house. >> there has been a
the big problem is here is not so much the cuts because, in fact, i think we have to cut the pentagon. >> yeah. >> if we can. >> but not to take an ax to it. the way we are approaching it, that means readiness gets cut where you want to maintain -- you always want to maintain readiness. >> that's what the real problem is. the sequester was designed by the republicans really as an alternative and they designed it in a way it was going to be so bad that we would never do...
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the pentagon sends the boss off with a formal ceremony happening today, even though he is likely to be on the job for at least another couple of weeks. panetta spoke yesterday before congress, said there will always an debate over how much military power to put around the world. >> united states military, as i've said, is not and frankly should not be a 911 service capable of arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world. u.s. military has neither the resources nor the responsibility to have a firehouse next to every u.s. facility in the world. >> former senator chuck hagel has been nominated to replace panetta. that confirmation vote continues and has been postponed. >>> a look at this massive crowd that filled the streets in tunisia. this was a public funeral of an opposition leader shot dead outside his home wednesday. thousands of grieving and angry folks marching with his coffin to a cemetery. many believe it was a political assassination. riot police have violently put down several public demonstrations since that shooting. >>> and of course
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libya regarding arms and yesterday during the testimony, it was interesting because panetta said the pentagon, the c.i.a., and the department of state were all on board with sending the rebels in syria where there has been mass genocide because ofor us to send them arms. you know who said no? the white house. well, we don't know if it's going to work. we don't know which of the rebels to arm. ultimately we don't know if it will result in the ouster of assad. >> brian: the "washington post" lead editorial today says hillary clinton and david petraeus, running the c.i.a. identified the group that they believe would have been the preferrable group to take over through all the rebels, they weeded through and had a plan. and the president nixed it. the word is too political. they wanted to make it seem we're not on a war footing with the election a month away. >> gretchen: maybe the election playing a huge role. let's look at the fox news polls right now. recently conducted, how many people feel our country compared to five years ago? nearly half of those polled say america is weaker and less powe
libya regarding arms and yesterday during the testimony, it was interesting because panetta said the pentagon, the c.i.a., and the department of state were all on board with sending the rebels in syria where there has been mass genocide because ofor us to send them arms. you know who said no? the white house. well, we don't know if it's going to work. we don't know which of the rebels to arm. ultimately we don't know if it will result in the ouster of assad. >> brian: the "washington...
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the except the restraints on the pentagon plus those coming into play, that have negative impacts? >> we are not a big player in that space anymore. i think a little bit of catalyst is something you see in every corner of the world. whether it is europe or china or anyplace else, i did not go to one place where there is no one government at all. the private sector is still very strong here and innovative. the private sector can pick up a lot. just getting it done. the will be such a value in a just getting some of these things behind us so we can adjust to move forward. the sigh of relief is incredibly important right now. i am an optimist. it does not end with a discussion on washington. we can compete. the work force of the to this country is as good as any in the world. >> thank you for the optimistic note. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] moste church is boston's visited historic site. half a million come to the church every year because of the events on the night of april 18, 1775. what
the except the restraints on the pentagon plus those coming into play, that have negative impacts? >> we are not a big player in that space anymore. i think a little bit of catalyst is something you see in every corner of the world. whether it is europe or china or anyplace else, i did not go to one place where there is no one government at all. the private sector is still very strong here and innovative. the private sector can pick up a lot. just getting it done. the will be such a value...